Curse

ducktape · Jun 04, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

Well, they actually said
Where blood is shed, wealth is stolen. There are 18 unique multilevel dungeons that make up the Depths, each populated with its own monsters, environmental hazards and traps, and phat loot. Only the brave dare to harvest riches from the darkest corners of these caverns, and with good reason.
Maybe they just meant that we're "stealing" loot from the territory of The Destroyer, as his pals have taken over the place to set it up for his arrival. If they do make it so that you lose money or items you've already picked up by dying in a dungeon, that would be the last straw for a lot of players.

By the way, is it just me, or did it look like the graphics engine of the game got some nice texture and lighting upgrades? /drool

I do agree with the OP that the article made me less interested in the game, in the sense that I was really, unquestionably, looking forward to it up until I read that article and now I wonder whether or not I'll like it. Even more worriesome since the article was written by an ANet developer/programmer/whatever guy. It's like how every time they talk about GW2 I wonder more and more how they'll make the changes they want to do without making it into a game I'll absolutely hate (Guild Wars: Just Like Warcraft Edition).

Bryant Again · Jun 04, 2007, 06:01 AM // 06:01

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Originally Posted by ducktape

By the way, is it just me, or did it look like the graphics engine of the game got some nice texture and lighting upgrades? /drool

Hard to tell from such low quality, but I doubt it. I hope they at least make the lighting of the characters inconsistant. I hate going through the dark, shaded Echovald forest with my main character staying bright through the whole instance.

-Loki- · Jun 04, 2007, 07:17 AM // 07:17

There was definitely better lighting in some of the scenes, but don't get too excited. Remember those effects we were meant to get in Nightfall, where, for example, hexes would tinge your screen green? Yeah, they even had screenshots of it in action.

Sophitia Leafblade · Jun 04, 2007, 01:35 PM // 13:35

Omg that fits perfectly with my EotN Asura theme tune. That totally is the Asura meeting mall where they plan everything that happens in Tryia -

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

"Who controls the Krytian crown?
Who keeps the Platinum system down?
We do! We do.
Who leaves Arah off the maps?
Who keeps the Undead under wraps?
We do! We do.
Who gave Shiro a Nasty Scar?
Who makes The Great Zehtuka a star?
We do! We do.
Who robs mesmers of their might?
Who rigs every Update night?
We do! We.... do....!"

bamm bamm bamm · Jun 04, 2007, 01:51 PM // 13:51

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

There was definitely better lighting in some of the scenes, but don't get too excited. Remember those effects we were meant to get in Nightfall, where, for example, hexes would tinge your screen green? Yeah, they even had screenshots of it in action.

It's called Madness Dart. Everyone saw it in the preview shaky cam video of Jokanur Diggings and assumed it was going to be tied to a player hex, including you, it would seem. I even remember people complaining about how lame that would be. It doesn't surprise me that someone would complain of it's lack of widespread use either.

It's funny how often 'bad memory' translates into 'OMG broken promises'.

Bryant Again · Jun 04, 2007, 01:55 PM // 13:55

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Omg that fits perfectly with my EotN Asura theme tune. That totally is the Asura meeting mall where they plan everything that happens in Tryia -

They meet in a creepy, cob-webbed, abandoned greathall? Yeck!

dsielschott · Jun 04, 2007, 02:12 PM // 14:12

"Where blood is shed, wealth is stolen." (maybe just the gold you collect from drops in that "map")

The idea that I had for this is that when in a group you share all the gold between the other players.....now if/when the others die you get their share of gold from the previous drops, not gold they came in with just gold they aquired while in that map.....that way it really isn't that much gold but still could make the other players feel they are at least getting something for having a worthless person who just keeps dieing.

another note about the ressurection dealio, I believe it will be just the same as it is now except that if the NPC your partied with dies you now have to find your own way and that party member is lost until you return to a town.....this could really put a cramp in a party who has lost 1 or 2 npc's out of a party of 8..... could make it interesting

netniwk · Jun 04, 2007, 02:32 PM // 14:32

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Originally Posted by dsielschott

on another note nobody is really talking about the other playable races.
I myself, think it may be cool to play as a char (or others), but at the same time it is making it more and more like WoW.....which I play GW for a reason

There wont be anny new playable races in Gw:En.And please,dont start the Wow/Gw argument all over.

Kas · Jun 04, 2007, 03:09 PM // 15:09

Who uploaded that Dungeon Siege Video and labelled it Eye of the North?

Shanaeri Rynale · Jun 04, 2007, 03:09 PM // 15:09

I don't think it does mean you lose gold when you die. Otherwise people would just enter missions etc with 0 gold on them. What it could mean is that the amount of gold and drops you get decreases as DP increases..

Clord · Jun 04, 2007, 03:13 PM // 15:13

They make minor features sound major. Nightfall was advertised how it got traps and puzzles. Reality was that two missions got traps and one mission got one easy puzzle (Nightfall's second mission got zero puzzles).

Theus · Jun 04, 2007, 03:38 PM // 15:38

By puzzles they mean incredibly RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing simplistic mathematical questions.

No really.

also..I'll wait until they actually fix their first three games before I purchase this.

And as for Traps,chances are it'll be the same retarded traps like that of Dasha Vestibul.

Ohnoes!Teh Fire and Ice Traps they r teh activated what evar will we d-wait lol tey r teh turn off themselves roflcopters mah loller skaters!

DreamRunner · Jun 04, 2007, 05:28 PM // 17:28

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Originally Posted by Kas

Well, you seem to be in high in confidence. But aren't you generalizing the ele class? As to your question.

I do not think that the krytan armour is skimpy. Nor the Vabbian, Elite sunspear, sunspear, Elite Stoneforged, elite stormforged from the ones you've mentioned. I think you are forgetting between sexy and skanky? After all, models have show more skin than some of these armours you've mentioned.

But I guess you think this is skanky?

dsielschott · Jun 04, 2007, 06:58 PM // 18:58

this isnt supposed to be a thread about whether the ele armor is skimpy or not......its about GW:EN

and yes I think we all agree that we are all looking forward to the new armors that anet are going to be putting out for all the classes

Bryant Again · Jun 04, 2007, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by dsielschott

this isnt supposed to be a thread about whether the ele armor is skimpy or not......its about GW:EN

The discussion came from someone hoping for a different style of Elementalist male armor for GW:EN, so it is related in terms.

Lonesamurai · Jun 04, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

But I guess you think this is skanky?

No...

thats just Fugly!

Aera Lure · Jun 04, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

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Originally Posted by fenix

That's right. Read that a couple of times. In fact, I'll bold it for you.

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Originally Posted by IGN Article

You can still exit a dungeon for another fresh attempt at victory or resurrect your own party members—a useful feature for the more casual player who might not get it right the first time.

This is indeed a very strange sentence. This is how I read it:

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Originally Posted by IGN Article

You can still exit a dungeon for another fresh attempt at victory OR resurrect your own party members—a useful feature for the more casual player who might not get it right the first time.

Sounds to me like there is a reward system in place for completion without dying. One can then choose to continue by resurrecting and not getting the high end reward, or, starting all over again. I sure hope this is not the case because that would probably mean parties completely fall apart and rage quit once someone dies, unless there is also a new game mechanic of some sort in place for member replacement or something. Who knows.

Really wouldnt think Anet would set it up to be like that, but its the only way the sentence makes any sense to me, unless like others have said, it was written by someone who doesnt play Guild Wars for a reader that never has either - just to be blatantly obvious. Its just why would anyone start over and choose not to resurrect?

wetsparks · Jun 04, 2007, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Maybe they dont care abut the masters/bonus reward and just wants to get through the mission. With your favorite character(s) you would want masters. On your less favorite that you have just because (s)he is your farming character or something along those lines and you want to get to the end game, just rez and get through the mission to continue the story.

Moloch Vein · Jun 05, 2007, 12:05 AM // 00:05

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Originally Posted by J.Kougar

Sadly, I'm sure you're right. I'd love to see some nice form fitting outfits for the male characters for a change, specifically for the Elementalists... but it seems the horney/desperate heterosexuals on the design team are only interested in ogling the female characters in more unrealistically skimpy lingerie. I doubt we'll ever get sexy outfits for the guys, despite how much many of us would like to see that (90% of everyone in my guild for example) but I guess ArenaNet is just too close-minded and/or homophobic.

If we are only talking about eye candy, I wish for "looser" outfits for male necromancers. I'd love coats.

Personette · Jun 05, 2007, 03:07 AM // 03:07

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

Well, you seem to be in high in confidence. But aren't you generalizing the ele class? As to your question.

I do not think that the krytan armour is skimpy. Nor the Vabbian, Elite sunspear, sunspear, Elite Stoneforged, elite stormforged from the ones you've mentioned. I think you are forgetting between sexy and skanky? After all, models have show more skin than some of these armours you've mentioned.

But I guess you think this is skanky?

Yeah, I think that's skanky. Sorry, but a slit up to the waist and a keyhole that stretches from shoulder to hip is skanky. A lot of couture is skanky, which is not all that obvious because of the model body...without breasts and hips and ass, they can show a lot more skin without really embarassing anyone. And end up somewhere sexy. Put the same thing on a woman with T&A and you have a whole different story. (and guess what female eles have a whole lot of?)

I have to agree that I don't see the point of arguing that Elementalist female armor isn't, on the whole, incredibly skimpy. Personally, I'm happy to slut my female ele up because I know better than to wear that kind of thing myself, and sometimes I wish I could without being treated like a you-can-probably-guess-what.

As for sexy male armor: male eles could do with better outfits, but male Ranger armor is hot. A lot of attempts at sexy male armor just go awry...like some mesmer armor, or the outfit the white mantle wear with the skirt and the thigh showing and the keyhole in the chest. Ewwwww.